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	<title>Comments on: Wind Power from the Darrieus Wind Turbine</title>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.energybeta.com/windpower/windmill/wind-power-from-the-darrieus-wind-turbine/comment-page-1/#comment-648</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt - You&#039;re quite the expert and I don&#039;t doubt your facts concerning commercial sized installations .... But .....  What about the mag lev turbine that Jay Leno is installing on his garage?  They&#039;re compact and self supporting, solve the bearing problem with magnetic levitation and the relative inefficiency problem by using the wind funneled off the roof.  They would look kind of good on top of a barn too!  With a 3-6 year payback period for small users ... they look pretty good.  Right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt &#8211; You&#8217;re quite the expert and I don&#8217;t doubt your facts concerning commercial sized installations &#8230;. But &#8230;..  What about the mag lev turbine that Jay Leno is installing on his garage?  They&#8217;re compact and self supporting, solve the bearing problem with magnetic levitation and the relative inefficiency problem by using the wind funneled off the roof.  They would look kind of good on top of a barn too!  With a 3-6 year payback period for small users &#8230; they look pretty good.  Right?</p>
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		<title>By: jawad ali</title>
		<link>http://www.energybeta.com/windpower/windmill/wind-power-from-the-darrieus-wind-turbine/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>jawad ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 05:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very pretty design, my intrust in wind turbine actually started after seeing vertical axis windn turbines,  i have worked to design  a hybride wind turbine , that will work on two pricipal ie wind energy and perpetual pull.
i am doing my m.phil in physics, any on having good command on designing blades and its mathmatics , pls contact me
jawad ali
jawad_physics@yahoo.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very pretty design, my intrust in wind turbine actually started after seeing vertical axis windn turbines,  i have worked to design  a hybride wind turbine , that will work on two pricipal ie wind energy and perpetual pull.<br />
i am doing my m.phil in physics, any on having good command on designing blades and its mathmatics , pls contact me<br />
jawad ali<br />
<a href="mailto:jawad_physics@yahoo.com">jawad_physics@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.energybeta.com/windpower/windmill/wind-power-from-the-darrieus-wind-turbine/comment-page-1/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice compilation of almost true facts!

Not to belabor the point, but VAWTs are not efficient enough to actually bother building and deploying.

 Vertical turbine technology, even after many years of effort to improve their performance and cost problems, still are approximately 33% less efficient at converting wind into electrical energy. Added to this is the fact that the wind resource in the urban and built environment as a whole is not conducive to the use of wind energy conversion devices - primarily because of the turbulence and lack of steady laminar flow.

Most, if not all, manufacturers of VAWTs rely on the ignorance of the public concerning wind energy to sell their products. There are no (as in Zero) commercially viable large arrays of VAWTs anywhere in the world now, and virtually none of the past commercial installations are still in use. When I say &quot;viable&quot;, I mean those that produce energy at a low enough cost per kWh to make them anything other than an interesting artifact.

I have installed large individual and multiples of Darrieus turbines that have all been taken down for scrap because they just do NOT work well enough to keep in service. Savonius designs are self-defeating and nothing but yard art. A well designed and built up-wind, three bladed, HAWT is the best, most efficient format for generating electrical energy from wind. Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice compilation of almost true facts!</p>
<p>Not to belabor the point, but VAWTs are not efficient enough to actually bother building and deploying.</p>
<p> Vertical turbine technology, even after many years of effort to improve their performance and cost problems, still are approximately 33% less efficient at converting wind into electrical energy. Added to this is the fact that the wind resource in the urban and built environment as a whole is not conducive to the use of wind energy conversion devices &#8211; primarily because of the turbulence and lack of steady laminar flow.</p>
<p>Most, if not all, manufacturers of VAWTs rely on the ignorance of the public concerning wind energy to sell their products. There are no (as in Zero) commercially viable large arrays of VAWTs anywhere in the world now, and virtually none of the past commercial installations are still in use. When I say &#8220;viable&#8221;, I mean those that produce energy at a low enough cost per kWh to make them anything other than an interesting artifact.</p>
<p>I have installed large individual and multiples of Darrieus turbines that have all been taken down for scrap because they just do NOT work well enough to keep in service. Savonius designs are self-defeating and nothing but yard art. A well designed and built up-wind, three bladed, HAWT is the best, most efficient format for generating electrical energy from wind. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Savonius Wind Turbine &#124; Enter The World Of Renewable Energy &#124; EnergyBeta.Com</title>
		<link>http://www.energybeta.com/windpower/windmill/wind-power-from-the-darrieus-wind-turbine/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Savonius Wind Turbine &#124; Enter The World Of Renewable Energy &#124; EnergyBeta.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Darrieus Wind Turbine, which uses airfoils and lift force to turn the blades, the Savonius Wind Turbine cannot rotate [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Darrieus Wind Turbine, which uses airfoils and lift force to turn the blades, the Savonius Wind Turbine cannot rotate [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Katy</title>
		<link>http://www.energybeta.com/windpower/windmill/wind-power-from-the-darrieus-wind-turbine/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty good post. I just stumbled upon your site and wanted to say 
that I have really enjoyed browsing your posts. In any case 
I&#039;ll be subscribing to your blog and I hope you post again soon!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty good post. I just stumbled upon your site and wanted to say<br />
that I have really enjoyed browsing your posts. In any case<br />
I&#8217;ll be subscribing to your blog and I hope you post again soon!</p>
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